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what was the "great purge"

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I've seen a lot of people mention some sort of purge that happened a few years back, what happened?
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TTE1414 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:40 am I've seen a lot of people mention some sort of purge that happened a few years back, what happened?
All +18 characters on a lot of mugen pages were literally annihilated.
every admin of every page took the +18 section and threw it into oblivion like it was garbage and without at least asking the creators of that content if they agreed or not.
But I know there is one place that still has all that, they have everything that many including myself are looking for.
It only takes two people to agree and that whole section would be back.
But for now there is nothing left, although I know that all that can be returned to the community.
I hope that a certain person thinks things through and returns all that content.
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Broadly speaking, I have known that it was a closure of a subsection in a MUGEN content site, however, before you have to delimit some things and the scope of a site before the work of users (creators, editors) of MUGEN.

Back in the days when I had a more active presence in the world of MUGEN, there were some codes of honor, not written but known, by everyone who was a "RESPECTABLE" creator of the customs of the community at that time, one of those codes was: "You will not take material from another creator, for your use without asking for permission" (obviously you should have the authorization response, not just send an email / contact him and not expect a response, whether he responded or not).

Over time, that code, like many others, was being forgotten, but there was always a bad stigma attached to people along with their storage sites (warehouse) because they hosted content that was not their creation, they hosted it under the pretext of: " To share with the community" which seems reasonable and to a certain extent seems logical, but it was not up to them to decide who took the time to create the content and dispose of it as they wanted (being able to generate even monetary gains) without more than storing the content and it will be downloaded.

Now, as you will be able to realize, this generates conflict and misunderstandings, add that the pornographic content of MUGEN is not well seen by the community in general, and add that there were people who requested on the hosting site (all this purge only it was in a storage site) characters and things related to MUGEN Hentai and at the same time they uploaded many repeated things of characters (edit only a palette, a sprite, etc) and declared it as "new" and pretended as creators when at most they could be cataloged as an enthusiastic user, no editor because for that you have to know what to do and a title of creator well...

All of the above got out of control of the site administrators and they chose to restrict the section, I suppose it was an important part of their bandwidth and visits, but all that material, although it would seem unique and only be found there, is not true, you can find all that material on the net, if it will take you a lot of time and maybe you won't find many things, but you will also find many others, it's just a matter of searching and expanding your horizons, this forum is a good alternative here creators and editors who know how to do things well and who are willing to share their knowledge without anything in return.

The site that hosts this forum also shares content, but from my point of view they are honest, they try to put who is the creator and the link to the creator's page, of course there are flaws as in everything, but at least they do the right thing, unintentionally something in return.

But hey, it's the Internet, if something existed you can still find it, not everything is in one place, it's the blessing of the Internet.

Looking for creator pages? If there are all dead because they are almost a decade ago, but it all started there; Now there is also just a matter of looking for them.
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Tetchi wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:01 am Broadly speaking, I have known that it was a closure of a subsection in a MUGEN content site, however, before you have to delimit some things and the scope of a site before the work of users (creators, editors) of MUGEN.

Back in the days when I had a more active presence in the world of MUGEN, there were some codes of honor, not written but known, by everyone who was a "RESPECTABLE" creator of the customs of the community at that time, one of those codes was: "You will not take material from another creator, for your use without asking for permission" (obviously you should have the authorization response, not just send an email / contact him and not expect a response, whether he responded or not).

Over time, that code, like many others, was being forgotten, but there was always a bad stigma attached to people along with their storage sites (warehouse) because they hosted content that was not their creation, they hosted it under the pretext of: " To share with the community" which seems reasonable and to a certain extent seems logical, but it was not up to them to decide who took the time to create the content and dispose of it as they wanted (being able to generate even monetary gains) without more than storing the content and it will be downloaded.

Now, as you will be able to realize, this generates conflict and misunderstandings, add that the pornographic content of MUGEN is not well seen by the community in general, and add that there were people who requested on the hosting site (all this purge only it was in a storage site) characters and things related to MUGEN Hentai and at the same time they uploaded many repeated things of characters (edit only a palette, a sprite, etc) and declared it as "new" and pretended as creators when at most they could be cataloged as an enthusiastic user, no editor because for that you have to know what to do and a title of creator well...

All of the above got out of control of the site administrators and they chose to restrict the section, I suppose it was an important part of their bandwidth and visits, but all that material, although it would seem unique and only be found there, is not true, you can find all that material on the net, if it will take you a lot of time and maybe you won't find many things, but you will also find many others, it's just a matter of searching and expanding your horizons, this forum is a good alternative here creators and editors who know how to do things well and who are willing to share their knowledge without anything in return.

The site that hosts this forum also shares content, but from my point of view they are honest, they try to put who is the creator and the link to the creator's page, of course there are flaws as in everything, but at least they do the right thing, unintentionally something in return.

But hey, it's the Internet, if something existed you can still find it, not everything is in one place, it's the blessing of the Internet.

Looking for creator pages? If there are all dead because they are almost a decade ago, but it all started there; Now there is also just a matter of looking for them.
Yes, you are right but not all is lost all that still exists but as I said is hidden, those who hid all those "jewels" so to speak claim that they are fully willing to return the glory that was the +18 section.
That for me would be justice but for that it is needed as I mentioned before that two people agree.
and all those creations would come back again.
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Did you upload content on the site? Although it had a large database, almost 90% of what is there can be found on the Internet, the rest I consider to be the editions that were uploaded and that was about work already created.
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Tetchi wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:36 am Did you upload content on the site? Although it had a large database, almost 90% of what is there can be found on the Internet, the rest I consider to be the editions that were uploaded and that was about work already created.
Of course that section was very appreciated by me and I liked to upload content there.
I know that as you mention most of the characters uploaded there can be obtained but I remember that there were some that I consider "different" to the majority because those characters had a very unique type of sprites I would say.
But as much as I searched I have not found them and everything I had downloaded from that site I deleted it from my hard drives without thinking that this massive purge against the +18 sections would happen.
And what I uploaded there also went to hell, that hurt me I know that many hated that content but for me those characters deserve appreciation instead of hatred which is what destroyed the +18 community.
That's why I want everything back to the way it was before and because I know that those who did that to the +18 community didn't delete anything but on the contrary they hid it.
because they know that the +18 section in all the pages of mugen was the most visited, that section must return.
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And that's why I'm sick of seeing Asians uploading videos of their "personal" edits which they don't share.
It's frustrating and forces you to do your own edits, but what about those who find it complex to edit some character?
or someone like me who has never been able to figure out how to make an agressor work.
That's why I'm one of those who think that those sections should come back and that's why when I met HCM I felt at home because it was the only site that at that time I saw that uploaded +18 content without anyone whining about it.
You know what I mean? that's why I come back and repeat that I am in favor of that content coming back.
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I understand, there are some things that are impossible to get again, sorry.

But you should not put a hope in a return that being analytical, will not return, it does not suit them they had a lot of lecheers, files with dubious content and users who did not contribute anything, although a pornographic section attracts the user, there are more problems than the benefits and they found out the hard way and yes, I don't think they deleted the content, it's just inaccessible.

And good issue apart Asian users; that's how they are, that's how they are on the internet and there is nothing and nobody, least of all a foreigner who changes their way of acting, so you just have to respect them, just as they respect or are not interested in what others do, " Live and let live".

And why not start here on the right foot, I mean create a database, with all the rules of fair use and respecting the creator; Although there is also content that does not contribute anything, content that is only an edition of an already prepared work and that does not contribute much or quality and edition, there are interesting things, you could propose it to the administrator of the site there are ways to contact him.
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Tetchi wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:28 am I understand, there are some things that are impossible to get again, sorry.

But you should not put a hope in a return that being analytical, will not return, it does not suit them they had a lot of lecheers, files with dubious content and users who did not contribute anything, although a pornographic section attracts the user, there are more problems than the benefits and they found out the hard way and yes, I don't think they deleted the content, it's just inaccessible.

And good issue apart Asian users; that's how they are, that's how they are on the internet and there is nothing and nobody, least of all a foreigner who changes their way of acting, so you just have to respect them, just as they respect or are not interested in what others do, " Live and let live".

And why not start here on the right foot, I mean create a database, with all the rules of fair use and respecting the creator; Although there is also content that does not contribute anything, content that is only an edition of an already prepared work and that does not contribute much or quality and edition, there are interesting things, you could propose it to the administrator of the site there are ways to contact him.
if it's true, you know what's funny?
that Asians are based on us, you can't imagine how the Asians of ryona mention this page.
and they take American-made characters and edit them and pass them off as their "creations" are not even as authentic as they say they are.
the difference from them to us is that they don't censor anything and we end up entire communities with the excuse that it's "censorship" haha
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Most Asian people are thief's and scammers, but not all Asian people are those type of people. Everyone is fully aware that China is the biggest thief/copyright breaker while India is the biggest Microsoft/IRS scammers, but in the real world?

You can tell who's the real creators/hard worker VS faker/stealing person, and this falls everywhere~!
Because even in the US, these people still steals from others while they are still faking it that "he/she made it."
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